Andy - not sure what your post is really aimed at. Maybe I just read it the wrong way= but if you want a FIAT / Chrysler "Jeep" then by all means knock your lights out. My read on the Roxor community is that most want a SIMPLE dependable well built vehicle that will offer great off road performance at a reasonable price. My thing is I own a NEW vehicle that is as close to the original Jeep as I will see without jumping off the deep end. That is exactly what I've been wanting for many years. I know guys with $30k and more invested in Razor turbo's - great!! That's their thing ..... this is mine and I hope you enjoy yours. To each his own brother - don't cut down that which you don't understand or appreciate