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FCA looking to block Mahindra

txroadkill said:
You’ll get a better ride between the increase in sidewall and the reduction of load capacity I’d say the sidewall difference will be the biggest factor in ride. I hate that the trend is larger wheel diameter. More of the masses driving auto makers or perhaps vice versa but the end is vehicles are built for looks/status and not for utility/work.
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Got My Pirelli MTR 285/70R/17's C load range on the F150. OH MY GAWD is it so much better! Took the 20's off that came on it and the Firestone MT2's that I had almost worn out. They were 10 ply E rated. S H I T its so much more com compliant! I'm happy for a day or so. Lol.

BDRAG
 
Not long ago there was talk of a Mahindra pickup coming to the us. As I have worked in Angola and Haiti, I was surprised to see Toyotas, ford rangers and such that were diesel. Is a shame for some reason they are not available here in the US.
 
As it is sent to the US as a kit to be put together, just send me a kit. License as a kit car, street legal. Another option, build it to fit the many body reproductions of the original army flatfender ford/willys. Ford made more jeeps than willys ever did during wwll. Under contract from willys as they could not produce them fast enough. This jeep has been a long time coming. I wish it still had the flatfender look. I have taken off all mahindra stickers and such and put the stars of our military on.
 
Unlike what many here assume, it doesn't come in 'kits' like 'jeep in a crate'. It comes in multiple large batches of similar parts and pieced together from all that on the factory floor. So there is no one kit sitting anywhere which could be mailed to anyone.

And the only flatfenders Mahindra made were on the CJ3B pattern. That production line was dismantled a decade ago. Round fender CJ pattern is the only assy line that still exist and that's why this vehicle is atleast even available. Bean counters at Mahindra India hates this vehicle. It's only someone's persistence which atleast kept it alive till US gave it a new lease of life. It would be too much to expect more.
 
news.bloomberglaw.com

Fiat Chrysler Wins Trade Case Over Mahindra’s Jeep Copy (1)

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NVwon its bid for an order to block U.S. imports of Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd.’s Roxor off-road vehicle that it said copies the look of the iconic Jeep Wrangler, the International Trade Commission said in a notice posted on the agency’s website.
news.bloomberglaw.com news.bloomberglaw.com
 
Tokarev said:
Now what?

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Now we pressure Trump. He will side with Mahindra against Chrysler. Lol. Ford can sue everyone on the planet that makes a pick up truck now. YES! Lol. Just another ruling by the screwed up mind set in our country. I'm am glad I am closer to the end of time than the beginning. Sighhhhhhhhh.

BDRAG
 
Standing by for statement from Mahindra....

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Straight from the source. No slant here. https://www.usitc.gov/secretary/fed_reg_notices/337/337_1132_notice_06112020sgl.pdf
so it’s trade dress and not trademark. Is this only the grill like initially or does it include the tub design? My take is Mahindra will continue on with the new grill. I don’t see the tub changing but the rounded hood profile possibly. Worst case everything is made here and a huge FU would be hoisted upon Fiat since the issue at hand is essentially imports. I really see that possibility playing out. I too am waiting for Mahindra‘s official response. Hopefully soon.
 
txroadkill said:
Straight from the source. No slant here. https://www.usitc.gov/secretary/fed_reg_notices/337/337_1132_notice_06112020sgl.pdf
so it’s trade dress and not trademark. Is this only the grill like initially or does it include the tub design? My take is Mahindra will continue on with the new grill. I don’t see the tub changing but the rounded hood profile possibly. Worst case everything is made here and a huge FU would be hoisted upon Fiat since the issue at hand is essentially imports. I really see that possibility playing out. I too am waiting for Mahindra‘s official response. Hopefully soon.
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My understanding is that the 5 slot grill is okay. It is the vehicle's shape and general profile that too closely matches that of the Jeep.

So possibly Mahindra will need a new body tub entirely to continue US sales.

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My local dealer has no more on there lot, could this be because they got shut down from selling them? Don't know yet. Mahindra got there ass handed to them. Welcome to the US. Maybe a look-a-like early Ford Bronco next would be nice.
 
So now that the courts have decided that a ROXOR is a replica of past JEEP products, we should be allowed to make them street legal. Most every state has laws that let replica cars to be street legal. Diesel engines had almost no emissions regulations until 2007. So we should be good!!
 
928dennis said:
My local dealer has no more on there lot, could this be because they got shut down from selling them? Don't know yet. Mahindra got there ass handed to them. Welcome to the US. Maybe a look-a-like early Ford Bronco next would be nice.
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more likely due to the covid shutting down the manufacturing plant.
 
This is only a ruling by The ITC. This is not a full blown court case. Since they are a commission, their opinions can be tossed by the president, based on his trade policy. Wait and see. I would say, that there is something to be said about the new Jeep truck. Funny how it looks like the Thar truck that has been sold around the world for years. I think this is far from over. Regardless, I have my Roxor and love it. Should it all go south, we should be able to get our parts through an ag dealer. Just my opinion.
 
Agree. This is far from over. And the ITC as I understand was only looking at 18MY and 19MY. The new face takes this off of the table with the 20MY. Mahindra won’t be backing down. And like was mentioned earlier, this is a ruling by a commission. Stay tuned. Mahindra will be putting out a statement that better explains its position today so we will get a better view than just the Bloomberg short story and all that other stories that simply copied it and put it online.
 
Maybe not the appropriate area to post but it should cheer us up a little on a day like today:


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I'm glad that Mahindra is a huge company and has the resources to fight a lawsuit like this. I'm also glad I bought mine when I did...I just hope getting parts in the future doesn't become a huge hassle.
 
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