Hey buddy I'm probably the "least" hands on person on this forum; I pay someone for about 90% of the work. However that 10% I end up still having to do granted it's very small stuff. That 10% I'm still responsible for is not by choice mind you. But it's definitely worth it if you love jeeps.Hi gang. I was very excited to see that the Roxor existed when I was looking for a side by side for our hobby farm. But then, I saw all of the lawsuit rigamorole. I have experience with old YJs but I wouldn't call myself even a hobby mechanic. It seems to me the largest risk to ownership is fixing these things with zero dealer support and almost nonexistent parts access. Did I sum that up about right?
My question for this group is: do you pretty much have to be prepared to DIY everything?
Thanks in advance for any mind dumps in this thread!
Darrell
ok, this just really drives me nuts. Diesel motors do not have a cat, they have a PMF, particulate matter filter. and vivid racing is correct they are free flowing, until they get plugged and become restrictive. My family has four eco diesels, two trucks and two grand cherokees and even with the regen to clean the PMF we have had to have the cleaned out with an acid to get the ash out. Yes they reached the point the motor would not run due to the restriction. Remove that dam thing! over time it will become plugged.@drh1965: I second what Dan H said. Engine is solid, but needs the tune. Any company selling tunes these days offers a great product. Go with the higher performance (some call that a stage 1, others a stage 2). Whatever is higher power, get it.
The CAT is either a left over of the Thar or was part of Mahindra trying to step closer to an actual commercial vehicle sale in the US. There were rumors at the time the Roxor was introduced that Mahindra was bidding on a vehicle for the US Postal Service. That obviously didn't go anywhere. So, I think it is a left over from the Thar. It was easier for Mahindra to just reuse the drive train.
As for the CAT and performance, save your time. Vivid Racing did a series of dyno tests early 2020 (with YouTube videos): With stock exhaust and CAT, bigger exhaust with high-flow muffler and without CAT, stratight dump pipe after the turbo. There were pretty much only single digit HP and torque differences. I thought that was a pretty honest thing to even post the video series in the first place.
The videos are long gone. Vivid is still selling the bigger diameter exhaust with high-flow muffler (I think).
I know some of the mines up this way bought roxors because the side by side weren't lasting and they have had no problems with the roxors so farI wouldn't be concerned about investing in a Roxor. My neighbors all bought into the sxs craze to work on their ranches. Every one of them is worn out in 1 to 2 years, with maybe 10K miles. For the same money, who cares if a Roxor dies at 20K? Why look at a Roxor purchase so differently? Why are consumers concerned about this ridiculous FCA lawsuit when Roxor has a laughably low bar to overcome? In my opinion FCAs major profit center is Ram trucks, who are also marketed at ranchers. They would be slitting their own throats to continue this litigation.