Where to put lockers

[Charleskterry]

I have an almost new 2024 all weather cab ROXOR. I want to put lockers (Spartan or Torq) in, but I’m not sure which axel to put them in first. I mostly drive on the farm with a little on pavement diving. My original thought was to place them in the rear since I’m in 2wd most of the time. My farm is pretty wet most of the year. My thought was the rear would help me not get stuck in the first place. However after reading I’m thinking the front might be the way to. To be completely honest, I’m not sure what the advantages of one axel over the other is. I would appreciate someone with more experience giving me some advice.

Thank you very much in advance.

 

[USMC]

Hello Charleskterry, if you are mostly flat terrain I would just stay with the factory setup.

If you need the traction, I would just put the Twin Stick conversion and Front Locking Hubs from Diesel Freak in; it is about $350.00 for the Twin Stick and $280.00 for the hubs, and both are easy to do.

If you are sure that you want lockers I would go with the Limited Slip differential. The LSD is good for trails, wet roads, and snow. Full lockers are more for the Off Road Enthusiasts and Rock Climbers.

The front versus rear locker is a bit different. If you use the rear locker it will cover most of your traction needs. Locking the rear axle versus the front axle gives you the greatest traction gain in most situations.

I am in Florida, you know, mountainous, anyway, I believe in getting the most for less cost. The lockers sound great when you are talking 4 wheeling but it may be overkill for your situation.

 

[Charleskterry]

I have some pretty nasty hills and washouts on my place especially when it’s been raining a lot. I had a situation where I had a large rock in the front of me ( no skid plates yet) and slick red clay on both sides with a 40ft drop off to a creek on the passenger side. Attempting to just go around the rock in 4L wasn’t successful because I only had one tire in front and one in back with ground contact. That’s what go me thinking about the lockers. I made it out of there climbing the rock but didn’t like the chance of busting an oil pan or worse.

 

[txroadkill]

Put it in the front. It’s easier to pull over then push over obstacles. And on the street it won’t be noticeable. Or you could go all in and do ox lockers and chrome Molly axles at each end.

 

[Bob R1]

If you need a locker I have one that was installed for about a week. I can make you a deal.

Bob R

 

[Charleskterry]

Put it in the front. It’s easier to pull over then push over obstacles. And on the street it won’t be noticeable. Or you could go all in and do ox lockers and chrome Molly axles at each end.

I like the thought of selectable lockers in the rear axel. The ox locker and the backlash measurement has me a bit intimidated.

 

[Charleskterry]

If you need a locker I have one that was installed for about a week. I can make you a deal.

Bob R

What is it about the lockers you DONT like?

 

[BAM]

If you and Bob R. don't work something out on his locker, i have a brand new Torq locker that I was going to put in the front of my 2023 but never did. I'll sell it for a discounted price. I'm going manual lockers when I have the $$.

 

[Ted]

Hello Charleskterry, if you are mostly flat terrain I would just stay with the factory setup.

If you need the traction, I would just put the Twin Stick conversion and Front Locking Hubs from Diesel Freak in; it is about $350.00 for the Twin Stick and $280.00 for the hubs, and both are easy to do.

If you are sure that you want lockers I would go with the Limited Slip differential. The LSD is good for trails, wet roads, and snow. Full lockers are more for the Off Road Enthusiasts and Rock Climbers.

The front versus rear locker is a bit different. If you use the rear locker it will cover most of your traction needs. Locking the rear axle versus the front axle gives you the greatest traction gain in most situations.

I am in Florida, you know, mountainous, anyway, I believe in getting the most for less cost. The lockers sound great when you are talking 4 wheeling but it may be overkill for your situation.

Hi USMC, if I install the front locking hubs will both fronts spin when engaged? Thanks!

 

[USMC]

Hi USMC, if I install the front locking hubs will both fronts spin when engaged? Thanks!

Yes, they will. I would put manual locking hubs on also, so you don't spin the axles when not needed.

 

[TomRox]

Have you taken the sway bar off? This will give you more axle articulation and and a significant reduction in the need for a locker

I went w Ox locker in the rear

 

[Charleskterry]

Have you taken the sway bar off? This will give you more axle articulation and and a significant reduction in the need for a locker

I went w Ox locker in the rear

No I haven’t even thought about that.

 

[TomRox]

Have you taken the sway bar off? This will give you more axle articulation and and a significant reduction

 

[TomRox]

No I haven’t even thought about

 

[TomRox]

You will probably get a better Offroad ride too

On the paved street you will barely notice a difference

I started with a detachable kit, then ended op just taking it off

 

[Gabe]

So Is this a difficult thing to accomplish removing the Sway bar?

 

[txroadkill]

So Is this a difficult thing to accomplish removing the Sway bar?

Very easy. 4 bolts/nuts on the frame and steering box and the nuts on the axle end. Literally a 10 minute job. Maybe longer without a lift trying to slide it out as one piece

 

[wv hayseed]

I have a torq locker in the rear and do not like the way it behaves on pavement. When negotiating normal turns in the road you either have to push in the clutch or feather the throttle. Otherwise the rear locks due to acceleration of the common rail diesel or the engine holding back. I am gonna put it in the front and a selectable in the rear. I have turn out hubs in the front already ( out of a 49 Willy’s) so I can free wheel either both or just one front wheel.

 

[Bob R1]

charleskterry
I drive my Roxor back and forth to work in town a lot. That is not the problem, the problem starts after I am in town driving on asphalt. I drive all over town going to Wal-Mart etc. The Torque Locker and hard pavement are not a good combination. If you can roll hard corners it just goes Clickity Click. When you have to apply power and turn at the same time is where the problem is at. Under power the Locker has to jump cogs making the turn, and makes a loud Bang Noise. On gravel and in fields etc the tires will probably slide and not make the Bang Noise. The unit may get over this as it wears in, I am not sure however.
NOTE: The mechanic not being familiar with Dana 44 19 spline axles let a pin fall out during installation of the Torq Locker. We ended up tearing it back down and installing new wheel bearings, and seals caused my the missing Pin. I had them remove the Torq Locker at this time. I have no idea if the Pin not being installed was part of the problem either.
With Luck someone with more experience with Torq Lockers will respond on how they work for them.

If interested in the Torq Locker let me know.

Bob R